Are there any other supplements besides creatine that arent

[LonArcvarden]

Obviously there is creatine and also whey. It works. But are there actually other supplements that really help with muscle growth?


And i dont mean things like omega-3 or vitamins, and minerals. Yes beeing healthy and not lacking any micronutrions will be beneficial but its not like you could prove in a study your multivitamin will increase strenght/recovery/muscle mass like creatine.


Im also not referring to things like lets say a pump booster. Yes having a better pump and therefore a better mind muscle connection will help building more muscle at the end. But its not like arginine helps directly to build muscle.




So is there actually another one?
Beta-alanin? HMB?


Or is it just a waste of money?

[princemeraj]

I think TUDCA has been proved to protect the liver, so that's a good one for the occasional beer or if you're taking orals

[ayawoalhassan]

I mostly stick to creatine and whey, but for oral cycles I add TUDCA
For strength, I've been grabbing gear from https://supplements4muscle.com/en/41...t-bodybuilding and it's solid. Their MK-677 works well for recovery. Most other stuff isn't worth it unless you're cutting with ephedrine